20210827, 20:43  #45 
Mar 2021
59 Posts 
Edit to above:
There was no need to do the Lucas test at all. If it is a 2PSP it is known to be composite. You could check if it is a 2PSP before doing the PRP test. I would probably do this by adding the list of 2PSPs into the sieve. Also, it might be inefficient to do a SPRP test and Lucas test in the GPU. The parallel threads in a block need to execute the same instruction so some threads would probably sit idle while others were doing a Lucas test. 
20210828, 06:15  #46 
Mar 2021
59 Posts 
This might work ...
If n is a 2psp (pseudoprime to base 2) and prime p divides n then Code:
n = p, mod (p*ord(p)) (https://www.ams.org/journals/mcom/19...05728727.pdf) This can be used to sieve for numbers that are possible 2psp. ord(p) is usually about as large as p so the product is ~p^{2}. This makes the pspsieve much faster than a regular sieve. The algorithm: 1. Find all primes up to sqrt(N) = 2^{32.5} if we want to check up to 2^{65}. 2. Precompute ord(p) for all primes. 3. Use regular sieve with small primes. I currently use ~10k primes which is probably a good starting point. This greatly reduces the number of potential primes that need to be checked with a fermat test. 4. Use the pspsieve with all remaining primes. This guarantees that a number is prime if it passes the fermat test and isn't removed by either sieve. This should be fast because p*ord(p) >> p. In many cases p*ord(p) will be so large that it will only occur a few times in the interval 2^{64} to 2^{65}. For these we could precompute a list of possible 2psp instead of sieving. 5. Fermat test. I think this will be faster than SPRP + Lucas. Any thoughts? 
20210828, 12:00  #47  
Jun 2003
Oxford, UK
1,979 Posts 
Quote:
Code:
#!/usr/bin/env perl use warnings; use strict; use Math::Prime::Util qw/:all/; use Time::HiRes qw(gettimeofday tv_interval); my $start = 2; my $end = 2**31; my $starttime = [gettimeofday]; my $x; forprimes {$x = znorder(2, $_);} $start, $end; my $duration = tv_interval($starttime); printf("Execution time: %.2fs\n", $duration); 

20210903, 16:01  #48  
Einyen
Dec 2003
Denmark
23·139 Posts 
Quote:
I was thinking of another idea: When you jump ahead, for example from p to p+1300, and test backwards until you find a PRP, then what about testing backwards until you have found 2 PRPs? (If first PRP found is still larger than p). Most of the time those 2 PRPs will be found above p+1000 probably, and in case you get back to p in 2 PRPs and find a false gap, it will be double checked afterwards anyway. At the price of 2 Fermat tests (+ any tests that are negative), we get a very low risk of missing a prime gap. What are the odds of finding 2 real PRPs so close together blocking a record prime gap? Probably near the square of the probability you calculated earlier? 1 in (8*10^{6})^{2}. Last fiddled with by ATH on 20210903 at 16:07 

20210903, 17:26  #49 
Mar 2021
59 Posts 
But normal sieve to sqrt(N) is slow. That's why we do the Fermat test in the first place. The pspsieve should be very fast. Then we only need to normal sieve with a small number of primes and do a single Fermat test to prove primality.
Is my math and logic correct? Using 2 different 2PRPs should be much stronger than MR tests to 2 different bases on the same number. How low do we need probability of missing a gap to be before we can say we have proven a maximal gap? It's possible the pspsieve would still be faster than the 2 PRP approach. 
20210903, 22:13  #50 
Einyen
Dec 2003
Denmark
23·139 Posts 
I guess I do not understand why pspsieve is faster. It looks like you want to pspsieve to 2^{32.5} (except the first ~10K primes).
Even if ord(p) are precomputed, why is sieving mod (p*ord(p)) faster than normal sieving mod p ? 
20210905, 06:23  #51 
Mar 2021
59 Posts 
It's faster mainly because there are far fewer memory accesses. The normal sieve needs to eliminate one out of every p numbers. The pspsieve only needs to eliminate 1 out of every p*ord(p) numbers.
I currently run in blocks of 36E9. If we did normal sieve up to 100k the first prime in the pspsieve would be p=100003. This would require 36E9/100003 = 360k memory writes. Ord(p) is 100002. 36E9/(p*ord(p)) = 3.6 memory writes per block. For large numbers near 2^{32} the normal sieve will still have about 9 memory writes. p*ord(p) will typically be close to 2^{64}. This is big enough that there is no need to even sieve. Just pre compute a list of possible psp for these really large numbers. So instead of sieving with 200M+ numbers with memory writes in the 10s of billions we would sieve with maybe 50M numbers and probably under a million memory writes. Last fiddled with by CraigLo on 20210905 at 06:25 
20210911, 17:51  #52  
May 2018
3·79 Posts 
Quote:
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1425172824437699411, 1425172824437700887, 1476, 60.30584258713822, 60.30584258713822 5733241593241196731, 5733241593241198219, 1488, 62.314056782060014, 62.314056782060014 6787988999657777797, 6787988999657779307, 1510, 62.55768993488138, 62.55768993488138 15570628755536096243, 15570628755536097769, 1526, 63.75546100573405, 63.75546100573405 17678654157568189057, 17678654157568190587, 1530, 63.93864225213069, 63.93864225213069 18361375334787046697, 18361375334787048247, 1550, 63.99330792884274, 63.99330792884274 18470057946260698231, 18470057946260699783, 1552, 64.00182219536605, 64.00182219536605 18571673432051830099, 18571673432051831671, 1572, 64.00973762046758, 64.00973762046758 It turns out that there are 3 maximal prime gaps with a log_{2} within 0.01 of 64. Other than the 2 in the gap between 2 and 3, where 2 is exactly a power of 2, the only primes with a log_{2} within 0.01 of an integer are 4302407359 and 4302407713, with a log_{2} of 32.002. That is especially interesting because 32 and 64 are both powers of 2. It is an amazing coincidence! 

20210922, 15:21  #53 
Mar 2021
59_{10} Posts 
Can any of the mathematicians here confirm that my approach (post #46) is a valid prime test? If it is I will start to write code to see how fast it is.

20210922, 19:48  #54  
"Seth"
Apr 2019
385_{10} Posts 
Quote:
I created a simple python program using the wonderful primesieve and sympy to verify this on all psp2 <= 10^12 Code:
import primesieve import sympy import tqdm LIMIT = 10 ** 12 def ord2_fast(p): return sympy.ntheory.residue_ntheory.n_order(2, p) primes = primesieve.primes(3, int(sympy.sqrt(LIMIT) + 1)) prime_index = {p: i for i, p in enumerate(primes)} s, e = ", ".join(map(str, primes[:3])), ", ".join(map(str, primes[3:])) print(f"primes(sqrt({LIMIT})) = {s} ... {e} ({len(primes)})") order = list(map(ord2_fast, primes)) print("Done calculating ord2(primes)") with open("b001567.txt") as psp_f: for line in tqdm.tqdm(psp_f.readlines()): psp2 = int(line.split()[1]) assert pow(2, psp21, psp2) == 1, psp2 for prime in sympy.factorint(psp2): if prime <= primes[1]: pi = prime_index[prime] if psp2 % prime == 0: assert psp2 % (prime * order[pi]) == prime 

20210923, 12:35  #55 
Feb 2017
Nowhere
23·223 Posts 
I don't know about the approach in its entirety, but I can confirm the congruence.
If 2^{n1} == 1 (mod n), and p is a prime for which pn, then 2^{n1} == 1 (mod p). Consequently, if m is the least positive integer for which 2^{m} == 1 (mod p) [m is the multiplicative order of 2 (mod p)] then m divides n1. We thus have n == 1 (mod m). Since 2^{p1} == 1 (mod p) m also divides p1, so p == 1 (mod m), and n == p (== 1) (mod m). Since by hypothesis p divides n, we have n == p (== 0) (mod p). Now m divides p1, so m and p are relatively prime. By CRT we have n == p (mod mp). 
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