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There are two things here to keep in mind. If you are trying to add more conductors to an existing conduit run use the cross sectional area of the conduit to see if more wires can be fitted. The second thing that's relates to length is the voltage drop at the load. To size the conduit work backwards from the load amperage to size the wires. If a long distance is involved a voltage drop calculation will be needed. Then select the conduit size to accommodate the wires recommended for that load amperage. The length of conduit run is not brought into the equation on de rating wire size it is always about keeping the voltage up at the load end of the run by increasing the wire size and selecting the proper conduit size for that wire.

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In general, you should start to derate when you have more than 3 current carrying conductors in a conduit. The length of the conduit run itself does not determine when you should derate. Stick to the guidelines provided in the electrical code for derating calculations to ensure safe and compliant installations.

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Q: When do you derate wires in conduit I know the code says more than 3 current carrying conductors but is there a length of conduit run when you should start to derate?
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